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That's how it is, I used to…: 〜ものだ

plain form + ものだ / 〜たものだ / 〜ものではない

plain form + ものだ: general rule (〜ものではない = that's not done), feeling about a truth, or nostalgic memory (〜たものだ). Spoken: もんだ.

In short

〜ものだ has three uses. It states a general truth or a rule of conduct: 人の話はよく聞くものだ, “you should listen to others” (in the negative: 〜ものではない, “that's not done”). With a verb in the past, it calls up a memory with nostalgia: よく川で遊んだものだ, “I used to play in the river so often”. Finally, it expresses feeling about the way something is: 時間がたつのは早いものだ, “how time flies”.

  • 人の話はよく聞くものだ。ひとのはなしはよくきくものだ。You should listen carefully to what others say (it's the rule).
  • 子どものころ、よくこの川で遊んだものだ。こどものころ、よくこのかわであそんだものだ。As a child, I used to play in this river so often.
  • 時間がたつのは早いものだ。じかんがたつのははやいものだ。How time flies!

The basics

もの means “thing”, and by extension “the nature of things”. 〜ものだ therefore says: “it's in the nature of things”. Its three uses grow out of that: the rule (that's how it's done), the heartfelt observation (that's how life goes) and the memory (that's how it used to be).

The sentence, piece by piece
子どものころwhen I was a child
よくoften
この川でin this river
遊んだplayed (past)
ものだ(nostalgic memory)

As a child, I used to play in this river so often.

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  • 学生のころは、よく友だちと朝まで話したものだ。がくせいのころは、よくともだちとあさまではなしたものだ。As a student, I'd often talk with my friends until morning.

Three uses

The verb form and the context tell you the use: present for a rule or an observation, past (with よく) for a memory — like English “used to” or “would”.

UseConstructionExample
rule, common senseVerb (dictionary) + ものだ人の話はよく聞くものだ
moral prohibitionVerb (dictionary) + ものではない人の悪口を言うものではない
nostalgic memoryVerb (た) + ものだよく遊んだものだ
feeling, observationplain form + ものだ時間がたつのは早いものだ
  • 年上の人には、丁寧に話すものだ。としうえのひとには、ていねいにはなすものだ。You speak politely to your elders (that's the rule).
  • 人の悪口を言うものではない。ひとのわるくちをいうものではない。You don't speak ill of others; it's just not done.

Feelings about life

In the present, with an adjective, ものだ expresses feeling about a truth you sense: “how… it is!”. You often hear it from older people. In speech, ものだ becomes もんだ.

  • 京都の秋は、何度見てもいいものだ。きょうとのあきは、なんどみてもいいものだ。Autumn in Kyoto — you never tire of it, however many times you see it.
  • 子どもはすぐ大きくなるもんだね。こどもはすぐおおきくなるもんだね。Children grow up so fast, don't they.

ものだ or ことだ?

ものだ states a general rule, valid for everyone (“you should”). ことだ (line 10) gives personal advice suited to someone's situation (“the best thing for you is to”).

FormType of adviceExample
〜ものだgeneral rule, morality約束は守るものだ
〜ことだpersonal advice上手になりたければ、毎日話すことだ

Common mistakes

  • Mistaking the memory (遊んだものだ, “I used to play”) for a plain past: ものだ adds nostalgia and implies a past habit.
  • Reading ものではない as “it isn't a thing”: it means “that's not done”.
  • Using ものだ for personal advice: for “you should”, it's rather ことだ or ほうがいい.

7 exercises on this point

Particles to choose, sentences to put back in order, translations: marked straight away, then reviewed at the right time. This JLPT N3 point is on the Uji Line (Feelings) of the Kyoto lines.